From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
Cc: barebox@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Code "borrowed" without attribution to original authors
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:06:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101007080646.GB28242@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101006135644.8D7051539A0@gemini.denx.de>
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 03:56:44PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Sascha,
>
> In message <20101006072749.GR28242@pengutronix.de> you wrote:
> >
> > > We all have been working long enough in free and open source software
> > > projects that I can assume you are well aware of the basic principles
> > > of open source software licensing and the requirement to attribute
> > > code to its original authors.
> >
> > Does that mean U-Boot has credits to all the original mtd authors when
> > updating U-Boots mtd support to a newer kernel? /me is digging in the
> > archives; no, it has not. Does that mean with
>
> We try hard to properly attribute code to the original sources. I do
> not claim that everything in U-Boot is perfect, and if you look long
> enough (and especially far enough back into our 10+ years of
> history), you probably can find exceptions. We are trying to improve,
> and we take all hints on such topics serious.
>
> In each and everycase, whenever someone asked us (either on the
> U-Boot mailing list or directly) about Copyright issues or similar
> topics, we always addressed these questions directly and as good as
> possible. Please feel free to search the archives.
>
>
> In the specific case of MTD updates you mention here the commit
> messages (extracted with "git log drivers/mtd") contain for example:
>
> commit 6cd752f9:
> ...
> The check condition is similat to what is in linux/next.
>
> commit 18b5a4b4:
> ...
> This makes it similar to what is in the kernel NAND driver.
>
> commit aad4a28b:
> ...
> This was originally part of Thomas Gleixner's patch for
> adding support for 4KiB pages.
> This is not part of the U-Boot NAND driver so updating the
> driver with this to sync up with the kernel NAND driver.
>
> commit 4f41e7ea:
> ...
> This patch updates the "chip_shift" calculation in the
> NAND driver. This is being done to sync up the NAND driver with
> the kernel NAND driver.
>
> commit aaa8eec5:
> ...
> This patch adds support for NANDs greater than 2 GB.
> Patch is based on the MTD NAND driver in the kernel.
>
> commit 154b5484:
> ...
> Update chipselect handling in davinci_nand.c so that it can
> handle 2 GByte chips the same way Linux does: as one device,
>
> commit 8d2effea:
> ...
> This patch brings the U-Boot MTD infrastructure in sync with the current
> Linux MTD version (2.6.30-rc3). Biggest change is the 64bit device size
> support and a resync of the mtdpart.c file which has seen multiple fixes
> meanwhile.
>
> commit c45912d8:
> ...
> NAND: sync with 2.6.27
>
> This brings the core NAND code up to date with the Linux kernel.
>
> commit cfa460ad:
> ...
> Update MTD to that of Linux 2.6.22.1
>
> A lot changed in the Linux MTD code, since it was last ported from
> Linux to U-Boot. This patch takes U-Boot NAND support to the level
> of Linux 2.6.22.1 and will enable support for very large NAND devices
>
> etc.
>
> As you can see, we try to document where such code is coming from.
>
>
> > 9b7076229ec6a958bd835ab70745f7676297ce82 Ilya Yanok is the original
> > author of jffs2 summary support? No, it's the same in the Linux kernel.
>
> No, he is not. Yes, you are right, proper attibution is missing in
> this commit, too. Such cases can happen, even with sevral people
> reviewing the submitted patches.
>
> But as you can see from the many examples above we at least _try_ to
> be careful about code atributions and copyrights.
>
>
> > Does that mean you are the original author of include/linux/list.h in
> > 700a0c648df72f2c8e0589c0d0470b5ffd7cab7b? Obviously not.
>
> Ah, you have to go back to an example from 5 years ago? At the time
> of that patch, the whole git project was just a mere 4 months old,
> and git version control had been used for the Linux kernel for just a
> very few weeks. There was no tradition to have Signed-off-by: lines
> yet, etc. Many things were far from perfect, then.
>
> But even then, the first line of the commit message reads:
>
> Add common (with Linux) MTD partition scheme and ...
>
> The wording "common (with Linux)" may not be really good either, but
> at least it's a pretty clear hint. And the file in question is
> located in include/linux/ , which also carries a certain meaning.
>
> We have learned our lessons since then.
>
> And if someone points out errors in our processes, we are answerable
> for our mistakes and try to improve.
>
>
> > Please lets go not down that road, it leads to nowhere.
> >
> > We obviously copy code from other projects like U-Boot and the kernel
> > and we do our best to keep the copyrights intact, but we can only do
> > this on a per file base, not on a per commit base. That said,
>
> Please explain why it should be impossible in a commit message to say
> that the hundreds of lines of code you add were not written by the
> signees, but taken from somewhare else? In the examples I listed one
> could even give the corresponding git commit ID from the U-Boot repo,
> for example:
>
> 0ceafe1 Replace direct header access with the API routines
> ...
> Copied from U-Boot commit b97a2a0
>
> Do you think such a short hint cannot be done?
We can (and actually I prefered Jean-Christophe had done it) add a
hint in the commit log saying that the code is derived from U-Boot,
but I will not dig through the U-Boot commit log to see who actually
made a commit looking similar to a barebox commit, and I do not expect
anyone to do so.
Sascha
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-07 8:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-05 13:52 Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-05 16:00 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2010-10-05 16:20 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2010-10-05 17:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-06 3:03 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2010-10-06 7:27 ` Sascha Hauer
2010-10-06 13:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-07 7:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20101007080810.EFDC4153A7E@gemini.denx.de>
2010-10-07 8:37 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-10-07 8:06 ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2010-10-07 8:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-07 12:45 ` Sascha Hauer
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