* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:02 Introducing barebOS Sascha Hauer
@ 2014-04-01 9:20 ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-04-01 9:23 ` Franck Jullien
2014-04-01 9:35 ` Alessandro Rubini
2014-04-01 9:32 ` Alexander Aring
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From: Alexander Shiyan @ 2014-04-01 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sascha Hauer; +Cc: barebox
Tue, 1 Apr 2014 11:02:29 +0200 от Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>:
> Hi All,
>
> barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
> operating system needs:
>
> - support for all kinds of storage devices
> - support for various different fileystems
> - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
> - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
> - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
> SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
>
> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
> days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
> remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
> applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
Was puzzled a few minutes ;)
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2014-04-01 9:20 ` Alexander Shiyan
@ 2014-04-01 9:23 ` Franck Jullien
2014-04-01 9:35 ` Alessandro Rubini
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From: Franck Jullien @ 2014-04-01 9:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexander Shiyan; +Cc: barebox
2014-04-01 11:20 GMT+02:00 Alexander Shiyan <shc_work@mail.ru>:
> Tue, 1 Apr 2014 11:02:29 +0200 от Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
>> operating system needs:
>>
>> - support for all kinds of storage devices
>> - support for various different fileystems
>> - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
>> - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
>> - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
>> SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
>>
>> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
>> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
>> days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
>> remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
>> applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
>
> Was puzzled a few minutes ;)
>
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I must admit I read this with attention until I realised what is the
date today ;)
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:20 ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-04-01 9:23 ` Franck Jullien
@ 2014-04-01 9:35 ` Alessandro Rubini
2014-04-01 9:45 ` Alexander Aring
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From: Alessandro Rubini @ 2014-04-01 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: barebox
Great news Sascha.
>> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
>> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
I believed it, until the "rename" bit.
Actually, adding a scheduler and making it an RT OS has been in my
intentions for quite a long time now. Having no interrupts and a
great library of drivers, it really is a good target to become an OS.
I even got Sascha's generic approval about the idea, and I only missed
a student willing to do that as his master thesis. Well, none appeared
so far...
/alessandro
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2014-04-01 9:35 ` Alessandro Rubini
@ 2014-04-01 9:45 ` Alexander Aring
2014-04-01 15:22 ` Nur Hussein
2014-04-01 16:16 ` Alessandro Rubini
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From: Alexander Aring @ 2014-04-01 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alessandro Rubini; +Cc: barebox
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:35:48AM +0200, Alessandro Rubini wrote:
> Great news Sascha.
>
> >> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
> >> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
>
> I believed it, until the "rename" bit.
>
> Actually, adding a scheduler and making it an RT OS has been in my
> intentions for quite a long time now. Having no interrupts and a
> great library of drivers, it really is a good target to become an OS.
> I even got Sascha's generic approval about the idea, and I only missed
> a student willing to do that as his master thesis. Well, none appeared
> so far...
* waves with his hands *
- Alex
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:35 ` Alessandro Rubini
2014-04-01 9:45 ` Alexander Aring
@ 2014-04-01 15:22 ` Nur Hussein
2014-04-01 16:16 ` Alessandro Rubini
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From: Nur Hussein @ 2014-04-01 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alessandro Rubini; +Cc: barebox
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:35:48AM +0200, Alessandro Rubini wrote:
> Actually, adding a scheduler and making it an RT OS has been in my
> intentions for quite a long time now. Having no interrupts and a
> great library of drivers, it really is a good target to become an OS.
> I even got Sascha's generic approval about the idea, and I only missed
> a student willing to do that as his master thesis. Well, none appeared
I'm actually trying to get an OS off the ground using Barebox as a
starting point, just for the experience of getting it done.
This is offtopic, but since it's an April 1st thread I guess it's okay,
are you the same Alessandro Rubini who wrote "Linux Device Drivers"?
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:35 ` Alessandro Rubini
2014-04-01 9:45 ` Alexander Aring
2014-04-01 15:22 ` Nur Hussein
@ 2014-04-01 16:16 ` Alessandro Rubini
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From: Alessandro Rubini @ 2014-04-01 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hussein; +Cc: barebox
> I'm actually trying to get an OS off the ground using Barebox as a
> starting point, just for the experience of getting it done.
Everybody should write an operating system, sooner or later. It's a
great experience. I finally converged to write a two-hour OS,
(expectedly, "thos").
> are you the same Alessandro Rubini who wrote "Linux Device Drivers"?
Not completely. Many years passed, and I'm now less positive about the
future. But next time please ask offlist, or search the net.
Now, netiquette-wise, is it worse talking about oneself or leaving the
question unanswered? I tossed a coin, and I apologize if I chose wrong.
/alessandro
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:02 Introducing barebOS Sascha Hauer
2014-04-01 9:20 ` Alexander Shiyan
@ 2014-04-01 9:32 ` Alexander Aring
2014-04-01 9:33 ` Erwin Rol
2014-04-05 2:53 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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From: Alexander Aring @ 2014-04-01 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sascha Hauer; +Cc: barebox
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:02:29AM +0200, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
> operating system needs:
>
> - support for all kinds of storage devices
> - support for various different fileystems
> - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
> - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
> - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
> SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
>
> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
> days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
> remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
> applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
>
damn, I don't have a thesis for my master degree anymore.
- Alex
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:02 Introducing barebOS Sascha Hauer
2014-04-01 9:20 ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-04-01 9:32 ` Alexander Aring
@ 2014-04-01 9:33 ` Erwin Rol
2014-04-05 2:53 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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From: Erwin Rol @ 2014-04-01 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sascha Hauer, barebox
You could use a small Linux system with an adapted kexec to boot
barebOS. That way barebOS doesn't have to bother with the boot processes.
- Erwin
On 1-4-2014 11:02, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
> operating system needs:
>
> - support for all kinds of storage devices
> - support for various different fileystems
> - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
> - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
> - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
> SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
>
> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
> days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
> remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
> applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
>
> Sascha
>
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-01 9:02 Introducing barebOS Sascha Hauer
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2014-04-01 9:33 ` Erwin Rol
@ 2014-04-05 2:53 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2014-04-05 5:49 ` Antony Pavlov
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From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD @ 2014-04-05 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sascha Hauer; +Cc: barebox
On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
> operating system needs:
>
> - support for all kinds of storage devices
> - support for various different fileystems
> - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
> - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
> - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
> SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
>
> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
> days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
> remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
> applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
I’m not happy with the rename honestly
And why dropping he linux boot it’s a feature like others
>
> Sascha
>
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2014-04-05 2:53 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
@ 2014-04-05 5:49 ` Antony Pavlov
2014-04-05 5:52 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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From: Antony Pavlov @ 2014-04-05 5:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD; +Cc: barebox
On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 10:53:19 +0800
Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
> > operating system needs:
> >
> > - support for all kinds of storage devices
> > - support for various different fileystems
> > - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
> > - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
> > - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
> > SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
> >
> > I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
> > of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
> > days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
> > remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
> > applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
>
> I’m not happy with the rename honestly
>
> And why dropping he linux boot it’s a feature like others
>
It's 1 april post.
> > Sascha
> >
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* Re: Introducing barebOS
2014-04-05 5:49 ` Antony Pavlov
@ 2014-04-05 5:52 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD @ 2014-04-05 5:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Antony Pavlov; +Cc: barebox
On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Antony Pavlov <antonynpavlov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 10:53:19 +0800
> Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> barebox more and more comes in the area that is has everything an
>>> operating system needs:
>>>
>>> - support for all kinds of storage devices
>>> - support for various different fileystems
>>> - Cooperative multitasking with the poller mechanism
>>> - memory management in form of malloc/free and iospace resources
>>> - drivers for Networking, MMC, USB, UARTs, Framebuffer devices, (S)ATA,
>>> SPI, I2C, W1, Keyboard, EEPROMs, LEDs
>>>
>>> I therefore decided that it's no longer necessary to have the overhead
>>> of Linux at all. The project will be renamed to barebOS in the next few
>>> days. Support for booting Linux will be dropped as soon as some the
>>> remaining missing features are added, like for example a working vi
>>> applet and nodejs integration. I'm looking forward to your feedback!
>>
>> I’m not happy with the rename honestly
>>
>> And why dropping he linux boot it’s a feature like others
>>
>
> It's 1 april post.
I known but was busy handling a huge IP stealing case from a Silicon Vendor
Best Regards,
J.
>
>>> Sascha
>>>
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