From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: Tobias Waldekranz <tobias@waldekranz.com>
Cc: barebox@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] dm: verity: Add transparent integrity checking target
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 16:08:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMwSYBocZu-g4faR@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250918074455.891780-1-tobias@waldekranz.com>
Hi Tobias,
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 09:43:10AM +0200, Tobias Waldekranz wrote:
> This series adds initial support for dm-verity. Notably, it does not
> include any support for validation of any root hash signature. As
> such, practical use in a production setting is still limited, unless
> you have some other way of securely determining that the root hash is
> valid.
>
> 3/11 is where the action is.
I gave this series a try and it indeed works like a charm. Great :)
I used a verity rootfs I had lying around which has data and hash tree
on the same partition, but even that worked out of the box.
I did some performance measurements just to get an idea how much penalty
we have to pay for dm-verity. Here are the times to read a 1 MiB file
from ext4, from ext4 on dm-verity and from a raw device:
raw device read: 24.28 ms
dm-verity raw read: 33.90 ms
ext4 on raw device: 24.55 ms
ext4 on dm-verity: 34.93 ms
sha256 of 1 MiB: 3.30 ms
(done on eMMC on a TI-AM62L EVM board)
Ideally the difference between raw read and dm-verity read should be
roughly the time we need for hashing, so it seems there's still some
performance to squeeze out. Nothing to worry about now, I was just
curious.
>
> TL;DR: What follows is just a discussion about the future - it has
> nothing to do with the contents of this series.
>
>
> Once this is in place, signature validation is next on my TODO. The
> kernel accepts a PKCS7 signature for this purpose. This is therefore
> also what Discoverable Partitions Specification (DPS) provides in its
> <arch>-<part>-verity-sig partitions, which contain a NUL-padded JSON
> document like this:
>
> {
> "roothash": "0123456789abcdef...",
> "certificateFingerprint": "0123456789abcdef..",
> "signature": "MIIINQYJKo..."
> }
>
> To avoid having to integrate full ASN.1 + X509 parsing in Barebox, my
> plan is:
>
> 1. Add support for (optionally) storing a certificate fingerprint
> along with a `struct public_key`. So at build time, we can note the
> fingerprint of keys that we include in the builtin keystore.
Something like
https://lore.barebox.org/barebox/20250821-keynames-v1-3-8144af76d0ab@pengutronix.de/
?
I don't know if that fingerprint is in the format you need it though.
>
> We could also support parsing fingerprints from a DT. Not sure if
> this is needed.
>
> 2. Add a simplified PKCS7 validation function that relies on:
> a. Knowing which public key to use in advance, rather than
> determining it by walking the ASN.1 data.
> b. The last $KEY_LEN_BYTES of the PKCS7 blob holds the raw
> RFC4880§5.2.2 signature bytes that Barebox already knows how to
> verify.
>
> 3. Add a "dps-open" subcommand to veritysetup that only requires the
> partition to open and a name for the dm-verity device:
>
> veritysetup dps-open /dev/disk0.root os
>
> Based on the partition type UUID, we would then locate the
> corresponding -verity and -verity-sig partitions, parse the verity
> superblock, validate the signature and then create the dm-verity
> device.
>
> Some other thoughts for the future (I have done no research here, so
> some of this might already exist in Barebox and I just haven't
> stumbled across it):
>
> - Similar to the automounter, it would be good to have an
> "auto-dps-verityer" that will do the equivalent of `veritysetup
> dps-open` on the DPS partitions matching the current architecture.
Once you have the dps-open subcommand you might be able to use the
autmount mechanism as-is. Something like:
autmount -d /mnt/mmc0.os "veritysetup dps-open /dev/disk0.root os && mount /dev/os /mnt/mmc0.os"
Maybe we can automatically create these automountpoints once we find
suitable GUIDs on a device.
>
> - Having the ability to tag a partition as trusted, which could then
> be used to tag filesystems as such.
>
> - Having a build-time option that limits booting to only be allowed
> from trusted filesystems.
Yes, there's still some work to do in this area. Right now our secure
boot approach only allows signed FIT images. Now with dm-verity not the
Kernel image itself becomes trusted, but the underlying filesystem. We
are not really prepared for that.
Sascha
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-18 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-18 7:43 Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 01/11] dm: Add helper to manage a lower device Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 02/11] dm: linear: Refactor to make use of the generalized cdev management Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 03/11] dm: verity: Add transparent integrity checking target Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-18 13:06 ` Sascha Hauer
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 04/11] dm: verity: Add helper to parse superblock information Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 05/11] commands: veritysetup: Create dm-verity devices Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 06/11] ci: pytest: Open up testfs to more consumers than the FIT test Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-22 15:38 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 07/11] ci: pytest: Enable testfs feature on malta boards Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-22 15:40 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 08/11] ci: pytest: Generate test data for dm-verity Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-22 15:41 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 09/11] test: pytest: add basic dm-verity test Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-22 15:44 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 10/11] ci: pytest: Centralize feature discovery to a separate step Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-22 15:45 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-09-18 7:43 ` [PATCH 11/11] ci: pytest: Enable device-mapper labgrid tests Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-22 15:46 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-09-18 14:08 ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2025-09-18 15:38 ` [PATCH 00/11] dm: verity: Add transparent integrity checking target Tobias Waldekranz
2025-09-23 6:30 ` Sascha Hauer
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