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From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: Jonas Rebmann <jre@pengutronix.de>
Cc: BAREBOX <barebox@lists.infradead.org>,
	Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/17] crypto: concatenate fit development certificate with private key
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 11:11:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQnRVNvuEYy32a19@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d5a5331-9cc8-426a-85ea-cdb288fdf265@pengutronix.de>

On Mon, Nov 03, 2025 at 12:41:14PM +0100, Jonas Rebmann wrote:
> Hi Sascha,
> 
> On 2025-11-03 11:08, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 07:03:20PM +0100, Jonas Rebmann wrote:
> > > Merge the exemplary keys copied in from [1] into a single pem file,
> > > in a manner similar to test/self/development_rsa2048.pem for consistency
> > > and to reduce clutter a bit.
> > > 
> > > While at it, rename them from "fit-" to "snakeoil-" as they are not only
> > > used for fit, but also for tlv integration tests, and to indicate more
> > > clearly that these are publicly known keys.
> > 
> > Should we rather keep the "fit" name and add another key for tlv
> > integration tests?
> 
> I'd rather not add more 'compromised' keys to the repo. What would be
> the gain?

My thinking was that with this we could make sure that during tests
actually a key from the desired keyring is used.

> 
> I think naming it snakeoil gives it the warning it deserves. We should
> make it hard for anyone to confuse our CI/Development keys with their
> production keys.

Indeed. I just don't like the term "snakeoil" here.

>From wikipedia:

"Snake oil" is a term used to describe deceptive marketing, health care fraud, or a scam.

We don't do anything like this here. We're not trying to sell snake oil.

I am open for something like "testing" or "development".

Also we might want to add a runtime message like:

"WARNING: This barebox binary contains well known keys and is unsecure"

Sascha

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-04 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-28 18:03 [PATCH v2 00/17] TLV-Signature and keyrings Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] lib: idr: avoid dangling else in idr_for_each_entry() Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-03 10:11   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] common: clean up TLV code Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] crypto: Add support for keyrings Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] fit: only accept keys from "fit"-keyring Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-03  9:04   ` Sascha Hauer
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] crypto: keytoc: Rename "hint" to "fit-hint" and do not use it in identifiers Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] commands: keys: update output format to include keyring Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] commands: tlv: Error out on invalid TLVs Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] scripts: bareboxtlv-generator: Implement signature Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] scripts: bareboxtlv-generator: Increase max_size in example schema Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] common: tlv: Add TLV-Signature support Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-03 10:02   ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-03 11:21     ` Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-03 11:41       ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-03 11:55         ` Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] common: tlv: default decoder for signed TLV Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] crypto: Use "development" keys for "fit" and "tlv" keyring Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] test: py: add signature to TLV integration tests Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] ci: pytest: Add kconfig fragment for TLV signature " Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] crypto: concatenate fit development certificate with private key Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-03 10:08   ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-03 11:41     ` Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-04 10:11       ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2025-11-04 11:14         ` Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] doc/barebox-tlv: Update documentation regarding TLV-Signature Jonas Rebmann
2025-10-28 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] Documentation: migration-2025.11.0: List changes to CONFIG_CRYPTO_PUBLIC_KEYS Jonas Rebmann
2025-11-03 10:16   ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-03 10:26     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-03 10:41       ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-03 10:45         ` Ahmad Fatoum

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